According to geology there was a large localized flood around the red sea area around 5000 years ago. Maybe a guy built a vessel and saved some of his farm animals and livestock and over time the myth grew up about Noah. Sometimes folklore is based on a tiny bit of truth. Even if a vessel was found it doesn't change the fact that a global flood described in the bible is a geological impossibility.
A Dr Morris who is a leading creationist but actually has bona fide scientific credentials unlike most creation scientists, has already been to the site pictured numerous times and has never come back with a jot of evidence.
To me it's akin to the face on Mars debate in that it gets a lot of people excited who have already made up their mind it's fact and desperately want it to be true that either there was an enormous ark full of animals or little green men on Mars.
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Noah's Ark - Close to being found? What effects would it have?
by Jourles inhttp://www.space.com/news/060309_ark_update.html
personally, it makes no difference to me if the ark is found or not.
if it truly exists, then it would be one of the largest finds of the millenium.
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Hello, hope everyone is fine and dandy
by New Worldly Translation inhi dudes & dudesses,.
i haven't posted on here for a while, so i thought i'd say hi.. i left off visiting the forum last year cos i figured i needed to forget all about the jw's and re-invent myself and my life.
harder than i thought though as all my family are jw's and infuriating as they are, they're pretty much the only friends i have at the moment.
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Hi Crumpet! Great to hear from you. I know what you mean about being at the computer too much, it's definitely addictive this intnernet stuff.
Hi Daystar & Narkissos too
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Hello, hope everyone is fine and dandy
by New Worldly Translation inhi dudes & dudesses,.
i haven't posted on here for a while, so i thought i'd say hi.. i left off visiting the forum last year cos i figured i needed to forget all about the jw's and re-invent myself and my life.
harder than i thought though as all my family are jw's and infuriating as they are, they're pretty much the only friends i have at the moment.
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Thanks for the welcome back everyone
We recover but we are different than we were and we're different than we would have been without exposure to Jehovah's Witness conditioning.
That's very true Gary. I had a real problem with this for a while. I thought I was going schizophrenic like my uncle Bill did (never a JW btw). I think in the end it was just stress that I wasn't the person I felt I should be if I'd lived a "normal" life and made my own choices. I was a raise-in too but I'm trying not to look back and to be more currant.
Just been re-reading your Armageddon Okies stories again Gary, classic stuff
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Hello, hope everyone is fine and dandy
by New Worldly Translation inhi dudes & dudesses,.
i haven't posted on here for a while, so i thought i'd say hi.. i left off visiting the forum last year cos i figured i needed to forget all about the jw's and re-invent myself and my life.
harder than i thought though as all my family are jw's and infuriating as they are, they're pretty much the only friends i have at the moment.
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Thanks Merry
Yeah it's good to be back. I'm enjoying looking back at some of the recent posts and what's been happening.
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My account of a trip to the 1969 District Assembly
by RunningMan inwell, i've decided to try my hand at a different type of writing.
my atheist's book of bible stories is nearly complete, so i thought i would write the epic masterpiece history of my family, from the time that they came to canada until today.
i am calling the book "east of edenwold" (which is a small town in saskatchewan).
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I really enjoyed reading that Runningman, thanks for the chuckles
I liked the mahogany plank bit of the story. That made me laugh cos I had some relatives who were missionaries and they didn't understand kids at all and used to bring back assembly pens or kingdom ministry holders from honduras (what I really wanted was a shrunken head or a blow dart with deadly arrow frog poison). Nothing they brought could compete with a mahogany plank though!
All the best with the book. I hope you'll give us a peek at some more stuff you've written.
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Hello, hope everyone is fine and dandy
by New Worldly Translation inhi dudes & dudesses,.
i haven't posted on here for a while, so i thought i'd say hi.. i left off visiting the forum last year cos i figured i needed to forget all about the jw's and re-invent myself and my life.
harder than i thought though as all my family are jw's and infuriating as they are, they're pretty much the only friends i have at the moment.
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Hi dudes & dudesses,
I haven't posted on here for a while, so I thought I'd say hi.
I left off visiting the forum last year cos I figured I needed to forget all about the JW's and re-invent myself and my life. Harder than I thought though as all my family are JW's and infuriating as they are, they're pretty much the only friends I have at the moment. I found that the org are ingrained in my life and my psyche that's hard to rub out. The whole history of the org and religion in general fascinates me and I'm happier taking in info about it rather than ignoring the issue.I don't know if anyone else has this but do you find yourself thinking about religion, politics, science, social issues etc much more than people in general who have had no contact with the JW's? It's like you feel you've been duped once so you have to get as much info about everything so you can make an informed decision about what direction to take in life. I can get quite exhausted by it, but then I'm a worrier by nature. I wake up on a morning wondering what the fate of the human race will be if the universe keeps expanding! I think I need some St Johns Wort or something
Anyway I'm rather sorry I left the board for so long. I met some really great people on here, hopefully some will remember me and I can build up some friendships that I let go before.
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Aversion to Polo mints
by New Worldly Translation ini don't know if anyone else has this affliction along with an aversion to trebor extra strong mints.
it goes back to my days attending the kingdom hall and taking a packet of mints to suck on and pass the time.
mints being the only food type allowed at meeting time i seem to recall.
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LOL Paul, yeah someone sucking a fishermans friend sounds like they were trying Gently Feral's suggestion
Trouble with fisherman's friends is that everyone within a 100 yard radius knows your sucking one cos they stink out the place. There always seemed to be in every congregation an old woman who handed out stale sweets from an old biscuit tin after the meeting. She was called Sis Barchitis in our cong but we nicknamed her Sis Bronchitis cos everytime she answered up she'd let out a phlemy cough down the mic. Apart from her jelly babies being like boiled sweets I was always a bit wary of her cos having read fairy stories I thought she was gonna lure all the kids back to her gingerbread house and cook us!
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The man who can calculate up to 100 decimal places in his head...
by Sirona inamazing documentary on tonight on channel 5 (uk).
daniel was interviewed on a uk show earlier today, and he is amazing!
he learned to speak a language in just seven days (and was fluent in it).
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Are you musical at all Leolaia? I've read that a few famous composers and musicians years ago may have had synesthesia due to their striving, in their own words, to make the music sound more blue or more yellow.
You're lucky you don't have the synesthesia where you taste words Apparently words don't have the obvious taste sensation associated with them, so the word bananas could taste like smelly socks.
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Cloning....Right Wrong .... A post from NYT
by EvilForce insouth korean scientists stunned their rivals around the world last week by announcing that they had produced the first human embryos that were genetic matches for diseased or injured patients, and had done so by a highly efficient method that could bring further rapid advances in cloning.
it was sobering evidence that leadership in "therapeutic cloning" has shifted abroad while american scientists, hamstrung by political and religious opposition, make do with private or state funds in the absence of federal support.
the korean achievement, published in the online edition of the journal science, makes the current debate in congress over federal financing of stem cell research look pathetically behind the times.
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The only boundaries science should have are those made by scientists, who understand the actualities and issues.
This whole debate about cloning in the media is really getting me angry. It seems religionists and politicians ignorance is proportionate to their vocality in opposition of what's actually being researched in the UK and Asia. Opposers seem to revel in a science fiction view of cloning and that the scientists have 'gone mad' or 'are playing God'. There's a similar debate with regard to so called 'designer babies' which are nothing of the sort and were only dubbed such by an ignorant media who had visions of parents deciding eye colour, intellect, height etc of their prospective child. Even though it's far from the truth politicians and religionists love to point to these fallacies as arguments against the continued research and in many cases provoke a knee jerk public reaction.
It also amazes me the number of daytime chat shows where they have debates or phone ins on subjects like these without having any scientist to debate the facts. All they have is some clueless hosts holding newspaper headlines saying how dreadful it all is or every Tom, Dick and Harry phoning in on the discussion with the comment along the lines of 'well I don't know the details... but I'm against it!'
I say all the best to the scientists at Newcastle Uni and their continued research into helping victims of debilatating disease.
Oh, also those fundies who are against the use of surplus eggs from fertility clinics. What do they think happens to those eggs if they're not used? They're binned, that's what.
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Greeks win Eurovison Song Contest
by ozziepost inthere's one consloation about being an invalid - i get to (have to) watch television.
isn't it awful?.
anyway, mrs ozzie and i settled back to watching the euro song contest which is in its 50th year.
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I loved that band from Moldova with the granny in the rocking chair playing a drum!
Ozzie, I loved those cringeworthy interludes with the Klitchko brothers - they should really stick to their day jobs
I really laughed when Wogan said about the Greek girl 'the last time I saw a pair of legs like that they were stood in a nest'
I think Wogan's right that the UK are the only country who knows it's kitsch nonsense and not an actual song contest. I mean the Ukraine even had the president hand over the award!